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		<title>By: Jim Ludwig</title>
		<link>http://craftingphotographs.com/2009/09/03/choosing-the-right-light-for-viewing-your-prints/#comment-115</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Ludwig]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 06:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the response, Rich.  Let me ask another question in way of follow-up.  I&#039;d like to set up a viewing station in my &quot;studio&quot; using a wall mounted magnetic board.  I have seen some clamp-on picture lights that would accommodate the Solux MR16 bulbs.  These fixtures would have an arm that extends out 24&quot; - 28&quot; from the wall and allow me to aim the light back at the photo for viewing and evaluation.  Most seem to take a 50W MR16 bulb.  [I could actually set up two, one for a 4700K bulb and one for 3200K]  

Question:  Would one 50W bulb provide the right light intensity levels you mention in your response, assuming I darken the room?  Would the 35W bulb be a better choice?

(I&#039;m also thinking that if this would be a good set-up for my home work area, it could also work for our camera club, as the clamp-on fixtures would work with our display easel, and the judging is always done in a darken room.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the response, Rich.  Let me ask another question in way of follow-up.  I&#8217;d like to set up a viewing station in my &#8220;studio&#8221; using a wall mounted magnetic board.  I have seen some clamp-on picture lights that would accommodate the Solux MR16 bulbs.  These fixtures would have an arm that extends out 24&#8243; &#8211; 28&#8243; from the wall and allow me to aim the light back at the photo for viewing and evaluation.  Most seem to take a 50W MR16 bulb.  [I could actually set up two, one for a 4700K bulb and one for 3200K]  </p>
<p>Question:  Would one 50W bulb provide the right light intensity levels you mention in your response, assuming I darken the room?  Would the 35W bulb be a better choice?</p>
<p>(I&#8217;m also thinking that if this would be a good set-up for my home work area, it could also work for our camera club, as the clamp-on fixtures would work with our display easel, and the judging is always done in a darken room.)</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Seiling</title>
		<link>http://craftingphotographs.com/2009/09/03/choosing-the-right-light-for-viewing-your-prints/#comment-114</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rich Seiling]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2011 23:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jim, 

I hate to say that your current setup is the worst you can use to critically judge photographs, although it is commonly used at camera clubs and many wedding and portrait competitions. The problem is that the intensity is too bright, which makes prints with a correct density look washed out. Ansel Adams recommended around 100 foot candles falling on the print as the best viewing light. Most museums exhibit at about 10 foot candles, and your setup is probably about 1000+ foot candles!!!

I can see a difference even between 100 and 200 footcandles, and the more intense the light, the darker you will try to print to overcome it. 

My take is for viewing enjoyment is to use a tungsten bulb of about 3200K. 

Judging your &quot;color management skills&quot; is more complex than the right light becasue there are so many factors that come into play, but viewing prints next to a monitor with a 4700K solux bulb is a first step.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, </p>
<p>I hate to say that your current setup is the worst you can use to critically judge photographs, although it is commonly used at camera clubs and many wedding and portrait competitions. The problem is that the intensity is too bright, which makes prints with a correct density look washed out. Ansel Adams recommended around 100 foot candles falling on the print as the best viewing light. Most museums exhibit at about 10 foot candles, and your setup is probably about 1000+ foot candles!!!</p>
<p>I can see a difference even between 100 and 200 footcandles, and the more intense the light, the darker you will try to print to overcome it. </p>
<p>My take is for viewing enjoyment is to use a tungsten bulb of about 3200K. </p>
<p>Judging your &#8220;color management skills&#8221; is more complex than the right light becasue there are so many factors that come into play, but viewing prints next to a monitor with a 4700K solux bulb is a first step.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://craftingphotographs.com/2009/09/03/choosing-the-right-light-for-viewing-your-prints/#comment-113</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 20:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rich,

I&#039;ve learned so much from your website and your writing. Thank you.

What brand of desk  lamp can you recommend for holding the SoLux 4700K bulb and the 3200K gallery bulb?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rich,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve learned so much from your website and your writing. Thank you.</p>
<p>What brand of desk  lamp can you recommend for holding the SoLux 4700K bulb and the 3200K gallery bulb?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Ludwig</title>
		<link>http://craftingphotographs.com/2009/09/03/choosing-the-right-light-for-viewing-your-prints/#comment-109</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Ludwig]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 21:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Rich,

This brings up an interesting issue for me.  I am an active member of a few camera clubs which hold monthly critique and competition sessions.  Usually, an image is placed on an easel and lit with a light from one of those clamp-on utility lamps one might use in the garage.  Bulbs are standard household bulbs (although they sometimes vary from standard to &quot;soft-white&quot; to whatever was last purchased; consistency has not always been a strong point).

My question is: what might be the &quot;best&quot; light source for this type of situation?  We want our prints to display at their best, while at the same time, we want to be able to determine if we are doing a good job with mastering our color management skills.  Any thoughts?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rich,</p>
<p>This brings up an interesting issue for me.  I am an active member of a few camera clubs which hold monthly critique and competition sessions.  Usually, an image is placed on an easel and lit with a light from one of those clamp-on utility lamps one might use in the garage.  Bulbs are standard household bulbs (although they sometimes vary from standard to &#8220;soft-white&#8221; to whatever was last purchased; consistency has not always been a strong point).</p>
<p>My question is: what might be the &#8220;best&#8221; light source for this type of situation?  We want our prints to display at their best, while at the same time, we want to be able to determine if we are doing a good job with mastering our color management skills.  Any thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Seiling</title>
		<link>http://craftingphotographs.com/2009/09/03/choosing-the-right-light-for-viewing-your-prints/#comment-106</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rich Seiling]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 21:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Scott,

The math doesn&#039;t seem to work out, but many color professionals have discovered that if you calibrate a monitor to 6500K, it gives a better match to a print in 5000K light than when you calibrate your monitor to 5000K. It can also vary by monitor, so try it out and see how it works. 6500K will render blues more accurately on most screens, 5000K will yellow up the blues but show reds and warm colors more accurate to the print. You have to decide where you want the bias.  (And splitting the difference at 5700K doesn&#039;t necessarily split the difference!)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott,</p>
<p>The math doesn&#8217;t seem to work out, but many color professionals have discovered that if you calibrate a monitor to 6500K, it gives a better match to a print in 5000K light than when you calibrate your monitor to 5000K. It can also vary by monitor, so try it out and see how it works. 6500K will render blues more accurately on most screens, 5000K will yellow up the blues but show reds and warm colors more accurate to the print. You have to decide where you want the bias.  (And splitting the difference at 5700K doesn&#8217;t necessarily split the difference!)</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://craftingphotographs.com/2009/09/03/choosing-the-right-light-for-viewing-your-prints/#comment-100</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 03:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ya got me confused here.  I understand matching the lighting conditions, monitor and print, but what has me confused is that you are suggesting a white point on the monitor set at 6500 Kelvin while viewing the prints (NEXT to the monitor!) with a 4700 Kelvin light source.  It would seem to me that both light sources would need to be set to the same Kelvin temperature for a valid interpretation of the settings inside the magic box (the computer which is set at 65K.)

Can you &#039;splain this to me more better?  ;-)

Thanks, Scott]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya got me confused here.  I understand matching the lighting conditions, monitor and print, but what has me confused is that you are suggesting a white point on the monitor set at 6500 Kelvin while viewing the prints (NEXT to the monitor!) with a 4700 Kelvin light source.  It would seem to me that both light sources would need to be set to the same Kelvin temperature for a valid interpretation of the settings inside the magic box (the computer which is set at 65K.)</p>
<p>Can you &#8216;splain this to me more better?  <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks, Scott</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Seiling</title>
		<link>http://craftingphotographs.com/2009/09/03/choosing-the-right-light-for-viewing-your-prints/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rich Seiling]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 02:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the question Roy.

The purpose of 4700K SoLux lamps is so you can hold the print next to the monitor and compare the screen to the print.

Prints look different under different light, and images on monitors look different depending on the whitepoint that they are calibrated to.

Check out the COLOR RENDITION DEMONSTRATOR  http://www.gtilite.com/color-rendition-demonstrators.htm from GTI for a great demonstration of this. You can find these units at many Lowes Home Improvement stores for comparing paint samples if you want to see it in person...it’s a very dramatic demonstration.

Therefore, if you want to hold a print next to your monitor to compare the two, you have to have similar color temperatures for the light on the print and the whitepoint of the display. If you don’t do this, you can’t trust your eyes, even if they appear to match. In other words, if you have standard florescent lighting or standard incandescent lighting on your print, you can’t trust what you see. (And they probably won’t match anyway.)

If you want to trust what you see, you need to light the print with 4700K SoLux when holding it next to the monitor. Even then, it’s not perfect, but it’s much closer than any other solution.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the question Roy.</p>
<p>The purpose of 4700K SoLux lamps is so you can hold the print next to the monitor and compare the screen to the print.</p>
<p>Prints look different under different light, and images on monitors look different depending on the whitepoint that they are calibrated to.</p>
<p>Check out the COLOR RENDITION DEMONSTRATOR  <a href="http://www.gtilite.com/color-rendition-demonstrators.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.gtilite.com/color-rendition-demonstrators.htm</a> from GTI for a great demonstration of this. You can find these units at many Lowes Home Improvement stores for comparing paint samples if you want to see it in person&#8230;it’s a very dramatic demonstration.</p>
<p>Therefore, if you want to hold a print next to your monitor to compare the two, you have to have similar color temperatures for the light on the print and the whitepoint of the display. If you don’t do this, you can’t trust your eyes, even if they appear to match. In other words, if you have standard florescent lighting or standard incandescent lighting on your print, you can’t trust what you see. (And they probably won’t match anyway.)</p>
<p>If you want to trust what you see, you need to light the print with 4700K SoLux when holding it next to the monitor. Even then, it’s not perfect, but it’s much closer than any other solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Sablosky</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roy Sablosky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 00:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m confused . . . call this a newbie question if you like . . . what is the purpose of the SoLux lamps? To make the proof look like it&#039;s on a computer screen? Why?

I understand wanting to make the screen look as close as possible to the proof; that&#039;s called calibrating the monitor. I understand wanting to see how the proof will look in a gallery. That&#039;s common sense. But making the proof look like it&#039;s on a screen -- that I don&#039;t understand.

I&#039;m not saying it&#039;s a bad idea, only that I quite literally do not understand it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m confused . . . call this a newbie question if you like . . . what is the purpose of the SoLux lamps? To make the proof look like it&#8217;s on a computer screen? Why?</p>
<p>I understand wanting to make the screen look as close as possible to the proof; that&#8217;s called calibrating the monitor. I understand wanting to see how the proof will look in a gallery. That&#8217;s common sense. But making the proof look like it&#8217;s on a screen &#8212; that I don&#8217;t understand.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying it&#8217;s a bad idea, only that I quite literally do not understand it.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhoda Maurer</title>
		<link>http://craftingphotographs.com/2009/09/03/choosing-the-right-light-for-viewing-your-prints/#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rhoda Maurer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for sharing this information.  I will definitely look into the SoLux lighting for my home office.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing this information.  I will definitely look into the SoLux lighting for my home office.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Edwards</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben Edwards]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 23:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed, wholeheartedly! I&#039;m in the process of designing SoLux lighting for my prints in the house. It makes a print &quot;come to life&quot; the way it can on a good monitor (or better yet, projected from a slide, which is my gold standard).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, wholeheartedly! I&#8217;m in the process of designing SoLux lighting for my prints in the house. It makes a print &#8220;come to life&#8221; the way it can on a good monitor (or better yet, projected from a slide, which is my gold standard).</p>
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